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Re: C I C L Y News from Jamaica

Hello Michel,

Thank you very much for this information, it is most interesting. Do you think
it would be ok if I did a follow-up story posting your abstract and some of
your explanations on promedmail some time in the next few weeks?

Please let me know.
Kind regards and good luck with the research,
Dagmar


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Zitat von DOLLET Michel <michel.dollet@cirad.fr>:

>
> Dagmar, Hugh,
>
> Cicly members who are doing research on some difficult
> problems like the
> lethal yellowings of coconut cannot spend their time in front of their
> computer...
> They generally think they have too much messages to read… specially
> when they
> are back from a survey! That is the main and good reason why they don’t
> comment
> all the messages published on Cicly. Anyway, this question
> on LY destroying presumed “resistant varieties or
> hybrid” for sure was important enough for us, to look at what could be
> the cause of
> these losses. The question was put on the table at the CFC/FAO meeting
> on LY in
> Jamaica in 2002.
>
>
> What is called the “new outbreak” of LY Jamaica, in fact,
> is not new any
> longer. It started at the end of the 80s
> in Florida. (Howard et al. 1987, J.
> Plantation Crops, 15 : 86-100.
> Unusually high lethal disease incidence in Malayan Dwarf coconut
> plams…). They
> reported that “ losses ranged from 42.9 to 100%”. This was confirmed by
> Broschat
> et al. in 2002 ( Palms, 46 :185-189 : Losses to lethal yellowing cast
> doubt on
> coconut cultivar resistance). In this article it is written: “Losses of
> 74 of
> the 106 Malayan Dwarf (70%) and 10 of the 12 hybrid Maypan –Malayan
> Yellow
> Dwarf x Panama Tall-  (83%) to the
> disease.” These data concerned trees planted in 1982. LY became active
> on these
> palms from the mid 1980’s (on 5 years old coconuts) until about 1999.
> “Malayan
> Dwarf” were Green, Yellow and Red Dwarf from Jamaica.
>
> These events occurred about 4 years after the publication of Basil Been
> in Oléagineux (Been , 1981, 36 : 9-12). Anyone reading carefeully this
> article
> could see that Malayan Dwarf varieties in Jamaica were not “immune”.
> According to the
> different places where they had been planted between 1962 and 1970, at
> six
> trials sites, the % of losses after 9 to 17 years was between 0 (in
> Orange
> River, on 29 trees)  to 11% (in
> Caenwodd, on 96 trees). Average
> for Jamaica was  4%.For the hybrid
> Maypan the losses were betwenn 4% (in Kildare, on 67
> trees )  and 21% (in Caenwood on  39
> trees). Average :10%
>
>
> For such a disease three components must meet : the host;
> the inoculum,
> the vector. It is known that  the presumed
> vector in the Carribean –America (Myndus crudus) is present as
> far as Brazil and Colombia. But there is no LY south of Nevis, on the East
> border, and South of Honduras,
> on the West border. The inoculum must not be present. In Jamaica there are a
> lot of valleys
> downwards the central mountains. Most of them are isolated from the
> next one.
> Then it is possible the LY developed in one valley and not in the next
> one
> (This was clear at the end of the 90’s beginning of the 2000’s). It
> means that
> perhaps inoculum was pesent in some trials sites  and
>  absent or rare in the others. So, perhaps the
> vocabulary adopted in the 70’s was not the best one. As a matter of
> fact
> varieties were desigend as “Highly resistant” when the average mortality
> in Jamaica was less than 15%  after
> 9 to 17 years. But 21% of the  Maypan were
> killed in caenwood. Or people have
> used the terms “higly resistant” as “resistant” while in fact they
> were
> “less
> attacked”,  or “later attacked”  than
> other varieties such as the local
> Jamaica Tall. But I don’t wish to come back on the eternal debat of
> what means
> resistant and tolerant in phytopathology…
>
>
> To go further on this aspect of “ presumed resistant
> varieties or
> hybrids” killed by the disease, Cirad and the Coconut Industry Board,
> undertook
> a research on the molecular characterization of the Malayan Yellow Dwarf 
> from Jamaica, used to produce the hybrid . The
> results are that most of these MYD are not “true MYD” (compared for
> instance to
> the MYD of the Marc Delorme germplasm collection in Côte d’Ivoire where
> 100% of the MYD have the same
> molecular –microsatellites-  pattern. The
> results have been submitted to publication, in Tree Genetics &
> Genomes , in May 2006 accepted after two successive revisions and
> accepted in
> March 2007. Only this week I got the permission of the Editor to post
> the
> abstract on the Web. (No news on when it will be published… it is also
> why we
> have no time to comment Cicly messages).
>
>
> Here is the abstract :
> Malayan Yellow
> Dwarf Coconut no longer resistant in Jamaica?
> P. Lebrun, L.
> Baudouin, W. Myrie, A. Berger, M.
> Dollet.
>
>
> Abstract
>  In
> Jamaica, the MAYPAN, a
> hybrid of Malayan Yellow Dwarf (MYD)
> and Panama
>  Tall
> coconut,
> previously considered highly resistant, is currently being devastated
> by an
> epidemic outbreak
> of lethal yellowing disease (LY).
> There are several possible causes
> for this change. In
> this study, we checked that
> affected planting material in Jamaica is
> genetically the
> same as the material shown to be
> resistant. We compared the DNA of
> MYD sampled in four
> locations in Jamaica with a reference
> DNA of the same cultivar
> collected in five
> different countries. The results of
> our analyses showed more variation
> at 34 SSR loci in Jamaica than in the rest
> of the world providing clear
> evidence for the
> presence of about
> 10% of alleles that do not match the
> usual typical MYD genotype.
> These alleles
> appear to have already been present in
> the introduced germplasm. This
> rules out a
> possible cause of the new outbreak: the
> observed heterogeneity may have
> caused some loss of
> resistance, but is insufficient to
> explain a massive outbreak of the
> disease.
>  
> (A similar work was done on Panama Tall and was
> submitted for publication in January 2007 and we are still waiting news
> from
> the Editor!...)
>
>  
> As it is written, these results alone cannot explain the
> “new outbreak”.
> We try to work on the two hypotheses :
> -        
> change
> in the “strain” of the LY phytoplasmas involved in LY in Jamaica and
> Florida . But there is a very difficult gap
> in this research : there is no isolated Phytoplasma DNA from the 60’s.
> -        
> change
> in the vector populations, but, as it was seen in the 70’s and 80’s in
> Florida and Jamaica, research on the vector is not an easy
> and short task.
>
>
> I hope these informations will be
> useful.
>
>
> Regards.
> Michel Dollet
>
> Head Research Unit "Coconut lethal Yellowings and Citrus greening"
>
> CIRAD-BIOS
>
> TA A29/F
>
> Campus International de Baillarguet
>
> 34398 Montpellier Cedex 5
>
> France
> Tel: 33 (0)4 67 59 39 22
>
> Fax: 33 (0)4 67 59 38 19
>
> Research
> Unit Coconut Lethal Yellowing and citrus greening Web Site
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dagmar Hanold a écrit :
> Thanks for this, Hugh!
>
>
>
>
> I am the 'plant moderator' for www.promedmail.org, an information
> service by the International Society for Infectious Diseases. Since I
> didn't get any replies to my questions, I decided not to wait any
> longer and have just posted the Jamaica item on LY - it should be on
> the web today or tomorrow. Perhaps you could check it out and let me
> know what you think.
>
>
>
> I would be very happy to run a follow-up story including some of your
> remarks below - I think breakdown of resistance is a very important
> and scientifically interesting question. If you prefer I could make
> something up out of what you have written below, but it would be
> really fantastic if you would like to prepare a small item to be
> posted directly.
>
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you think this is a good idea.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks again for your help! Looking forward to hearing from you again,
>
>
>
>
> Dagmar
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22/05/2007, at 8:17 AM, Hugh Harries wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Dagmar
>
>
>
>
> It seems I was wrong
> to think that CICLY members might
>
>
> have an opinion on
> your question "does this . . . mean
>
>
> that dwarf and
> hybrid resistance has broken down?"
>
>
>
>
> It is their interest
> in lethal yellowing disease that
>
>
> appears to have
> broken down. But just wait until
>
>
> another Latin
> American and/or West African country
>
>
> becomes host to the
> next epidemic outbreak!
>
>
>
>
> My own opinion is
> that because there have always been
>
>
> examples of
> individual dwarf and hybrids dying from LY
>
>
> they all vary in
> their level of resistance. None are
>
>
> immune and when
> infection does occur none live long
>
>
> enough to be called
> tolerant.
>
>
>
>
> Resistance and
> susceptibility are like the two faces
>
>
> on a spinning coin -
> which way it lands depends on
>
>
> external
> circumstances.
>
>
>
>
> So what happens when
> more than a few - perhaps most
>
>
> dwarf and hybrid
> varieties in Jamaica die from LY
>
>
> while some countries
> - Cuba and Dominican Republic -
>
>
> can co-exist with
> this disease and another country -
>
>
> Ivory Coast - remain
> free even when it is on their
>
>
> border with Ghana
> for years?
>
>
>
>
> It must be the
> external circumstances.
>
>
>
>
> What has changed in
> Jamaica since the successful 60s
>
>
> and 70s? Has the
> phytoplasma mutated? Has the vector
>
>
> become more
> effective? Has another vector joined the
>
>
> attack?
>
>
>
>
> I don't suppose
> CICLY members have opinions on these
>
>
> possibilities either.
>
>
>
>
> But just wait until
> another Latin American and/or West
>
>
> African country
> becomes host to the next epidemic
>
>
> outbreak!
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> Hugh
>
>
> ====
>
>
>
>
> --- Dagmar Hanold
> <dagmar.hanold@adelaide.edu.au>
>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > Hello all,
>
>
> > I would appreciate
> any comments or information on
>
>
> > the issue below.
>
>
> > Thanks and regards,
>
>
> > Dagmar Hanold
>
>
> >
>
> > Begin forwarded
> message:
>
>
> >
>
> > > From: Hugh
> Harries
> <harrieshc@yahoo.com>
>
>
> > > Date: 10 May
> 2007 3:17:45 PM
>
>
> > > To: Dagmar
> Hanold <dagmar.hanold@adelaide.edu.au>
>
>
> > > Subject: Re: C I
> C L Y News from Jamaica
>
>
> > >
>
>
> > > Hi Dagmar
>
>
> > >
>
>
> > > It is still a
> matter of opinion. Why don't you
>
>
> > send
>
>
> > > your question to
> cicly@yahoogroups.com
> to generate
>
>
> > an
>
>
> > > exchange of
> opinions?
>
>
> > >
>
>
> > > Hugh
>
>
> > >
>
>
> > > --- Dagmar
> Hanold <dagmar.hanold@adelaide.edu.au>
>
>
> > > wrote:
>
>
> > >
>
>
> > >> Dear Hugh,
>
>
> > >>
>
>
> > >> I may have
> missed previous stories on this - but
>
>
> > >> does this
> paragraph
>
>
> > >> below
>
>
> > >>
>
>
> > >>>> It says the
> continued failure is linked to
>
>
> > >> farmers'
> reluctance to
>
>
> > >>>> plant the
> Malayan Dwarf and Maypan hybrid,
>
>
> > which
>
>
> > >> are still dying
> from
>
>
> > >>>> lethal
> yellowing disease.
>
>
> > >>
>
>
> > >> mean that dwarf
> and hybrid resistance has broken
>
>
> > >> down?
>
>
> > >>
>
>
> > >> Kind regards,
>
>
> > >> Dagmar Hanold
>
>
> > >>
>
>
> > >>
>
>
> > >>
>
>
> > >>> From:
> "hugh.harries"
> <harrieshc@yahoo.com>
>
>
> > >>> Date: 6 May
> 2007 4:48:28 PM
>
>
> > >>> To:
> CICLY@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> > >>> Subject: C I C
> L Y News from Jamaica
>
>
> > >>> Reply-To:
> CICLY@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> > >>>
>
>
> > >>> "Sat May 5,
> 2007
>
>
> > >>> Farmers'
> reluctance stymies efforts to re-grow
>
>
> > >> coconuts
>
>
> > >>>
>
>
> > >>> The Coconut
> Industry Board, which is staging
>
>
> > the
>
>
> > >> annual general
>
>
> > >>> meeting of the
> Growers Association on Saturday,
>
>
> > >> has indicated
> that it
>
>
> > >>> is
> experiencing problems with its planting
>
>
> > >> programmes.
>
>
> > >>>
>
>
> > >>> It says the
> programmes introduced as part of
>
>
> > >> efforts to
> maintain the
>
>
> > >>> number of
> trees which existed immediately
>
>
> > before
>
>
> > >> the latest
> outbreak
>
>
> > >>> of yellow
> leafing in 1997 have seen little
>
>
> > >> success.
>
>
> > >>>
>
>
> > >>> According to
> the Board, it did not achieve its
>
>
> > >> targeted
> planting of
>
>
> > >>> 100,000
> seedlings per year, and this has been
>
>
> > the
>
>
> > >> experience every
>
>
> > >>> year since the
> establishment of the programmes.
>
>
> > >>>
>
>
> > >>> It says the
> continued failure is linked to
>
>
> > >> farmers'
> reluctance to
>
>
> > >>> plant the
> Malayan Dwarf and Maypan hybrid,
>
>
> > which
>
>
> > >> are still dying
> from
>
>
> > >>> lethal
> yellowing disease.
>
>
> > >>>
>
>
> > >>> Planting under
> the old programme should have
>
>
> > >> ended in 2004,
> but the
>
>
> > >>> Board decided
> that the period should be
>
>
> > extended.
>
>
> > >>>
>
>
> > >>> This, as the
> targeted 300,000 seedlings over
>
>
> > the
>
>
> > >> five years had
> not
>
>
> > >>> been achieved.
>
>
> > >>>
>
>
> > >>> Under the
> programme, the Board is continuing to
>
>
> > >> offer 60,000
> seedlings
>
>
> > >>> per year and
> fertilizer for 80 per cent of the
>
>
> > >> seedlings."
>
>
> > >>>
>
>
> > >>>
>
>
> > >>
>
>
> > >
>
>
> >
>
>
> http://www.rjr94fm.com/news/story.php?category=2&story=35569
>
>
> > >>>
>
>
> >
>
> > Dr Dagmar Hanold
>
>
> > Plant Virology
>
>
> > School of
> Agriculture, Food and Wine
>
>
> > The University of
> Adelaide, Waite Campus
>
>
> > Glen Osmond SA
> 5064, AUSTRALIA.
>
>
> > Tel: &#43;61 8 8303
> 7307; Fax: &#43;61 8 8303 7109.
>
>
> > E-mail:
> dagmar.hanold@adelaide.edu.au
>
>
> > website:
>
>
> >
>
>
> http://www.agwine.adelaide.edu.au/research/plant/path/pv
>
>
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>
> Fax: 33 (0)4 67 59 38 19
>
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